Le débat sur ce thème ou sur tout autre relative aux idées nietzschéennes (nihilisme, surhomme, fascisme, clash des civilisations...) est ouvert !
"Nietzsche seems like a frightening and passionating thinker. Although I have to admit I was surprised when you said his thoughts were popular among the islamic world (you meant fundamentalists and belligerant Islamists, I guess?).
You explained that Nietzsche believed people now won't believe in supernatural creatures (gods) anymore but instead in their "home-made" values. And they will fight for them.
Allah is all but a "home made" conception for the Islamists, it is something beyond them exactly like Zeus for the Greeks.
How "God is dead" applies to the current situation?
I understand this theory fited the Nazi Regime, where god was absent and replaced by a cult of a dictator and an ideology but what about now?
Also I was wondering how Niezsche explained the creation of the universe, the cosmos. Where do we all come from. The complexity of the creation of life on earth... Didn't he believe in a kind of supernatural power that settled that down?
Nietzsche, by MünchYou ask some big questions!
Nietzsche seems to be attractive to some leading contemporary Islamic thinkers. The one I have read who refers to Nietzsche with great respect is the Iranian theorist Ali Shariati, who is now dead but was one of the most influential writers and thinkers inspiring the revolution of Ayatollah Khomeini, and who still exercises considerable inlfuence in Iran and the Shiite part of Islam. But I have been told that Nietzsche is quite influental in Turkey today also.
There is indeed a big tension between Nietzsche's atheism and Islam in any form. But Nietzsche's atheism is somewhat ambiguous, because he looks forward to the creation of new gods (he hopes people will again be creators of gods, and believers in them, somewhat like the ancient Greek gods). These future gods will of course, it is true, not be "monotheistic" like Allah.
But an Islamic theorist like Shariati seems willing to forgive Nietzsche this, since Nietzsche was so anti-Christian, or so insistent that what was good in Christianity would have to be integrated into a much more warlike, virile, and politically ambitous religiosity.
And while I do not know enough about contemporary Islam to say much, I wonder whether there may not be certain thoughtful or "post-modern" adherents of Islam who have lost much of their traditional faith and are quite ready to think of Allah in new terms, even along Nietzschean lines?
What N. means by the "death of God" is more obvious in western Europe today than in the United States—and N. would say that western Europe is further along in this regard.
N. thinks that all the evidence is against a "creation" or a "creator" of the universe. He is a strong believer in evolution, through chance and accident; but he suggests that evolution is itself "creative": every being is moved by what N. calls "the will to power," which is a universal impulse in all beings to overcome and to transform what they are or have been and to become something new.
Mon prof s'appelle T. Pangle, droits d'auteur obligent...
Lecture de Ainsi parlait Zarathoustra (en français, pour le plaisir des oreilles...)
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